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    RE: tree life expectancy

    Cutting swamps? That's unheard of here.. you have to bend over backwards while juggling fire-lit torches to get a permit to do that here.. and then it's only small areas of tamarack, usually..because they grow so fast and re-generate easily.

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    RE: tree life expectancy

    hundreds of acres behind me is all swamp and was all cleared several years ago, do they use all this as pulpwood? mostly laurel oaks, sweetgum, red maple, black willows. i guess there's no bald cypress because they don't grow back?

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    Re: RE: tree life expectancy

    Quote Originally Posted by snowguy716
    Cutting swamps? That's unheard of here.. you have to bend over backwards while juggling fire-lit torches to get a permit to do that here.. and then it's only small areas of tamarack, usually..because they grow so fast and re-generate easily.
    Yeah, MN swamp protection laws are so famous, even I knew about them all the way down here in GA.

    Actually, I was thinking of moving to MN once.... So, I did a bit of reading. All the wetlands are protected. Even on your own land! You can't go near them with an atv!

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    Re: RE: tree life expectancy

    Quote Originally Posted by fracwilt
    hundreds of acres behind me is all swamp and was all cleared several years ago, do they use all this as pulpwood? mostly laurel oaks, sweetgum, red maple, black willows. i guess there's no bald cypress because they don't grow back?
    Harvesting trees from a swamp to use as pulpwood seems strange and costly to me... But I don't know that much about it. Around here though, pine is high dollar stuff and nobody wants hardwood. Firewood is about all its good for.... and even then $40 a pickup truck load isn't enough to make me wanna chop a tree down and split the wood!

    I have a couple cords of Chestnut that makes awesome firewood, but not enough money to bother selling it. And I'd rather use it to heat my garage this winter.

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    RE: tree life expectancy

    Chestnut? Please tell me you didn't cut down a rare living American chestnut for wood!

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    RE: tree life expectancy

    My grandpa planted 2 chestnut trees in the early 70's. One is dead now. So, I'm in the process of cutting it down for him.

    Are those really that rare?

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    RE: tree life expectancy

    They're slowly but surely going extinct... they used to be one of the most common trees in the eastern U.S. and were the largest tree as well.. some were giants.. several hundred feet tall.. 12 foot dbh...

    Then came the chestnut blight and they're nearly all gone now.. all how many millions of them. All taht remains are sad little shoots that were sent up by the roots that usually get the blight and die by the time they're about 15 years old.

    So, if they are, in fact, American Chestnuts that have survived to today, then you have really lucked out.

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    RE: tree life expectancy

    Chestnut blight devastated the species. We're just now getting close to having some blight-resistant trees that are CLOSE to pure American Chestnuts. A very few trees survived and the coppices that continue to appear fifty years later are a valuable source in trying to restore the species.

    Were those really American chestnuts? Or were they Chinese Chestnut, some other import, or perhaps a hybrid? Chestnut blight hit hard early enough in the century that I'd be surprised to learn that someone was planting them in the early 1970s . . . unless your grandpa was trying to save the species. I think the blight hit the country unevenly and some areas may even have been spared (? I'm not sure about that! ?).

    I just planted a number of "nearly American" chestnuts and am very encouraged by what I've been reading about the progress being made.

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    Re: RE: tree life expectancy

    Quote Originally Posted by JustRandy
    My grandpa planted 2 chestnut trees in the early 70's. One is dead now. So, I'm in the process of cutting it down for him.

    Are those really that rare?
    If you have real American Chestnuts that are bigger than sprouts, YES! If you find one you are asked to contact the ACF or ACCF so they can come see it, document it and use its pollen to grow new blight resistant trees that can replentish the species.

    As somebody else posted, are they Chinese? If they're American, you do have a very rare find and might just get your tree in the newspaper. Last year a rare stand was found in Warm Springs, GA, so you may have some too.

    Your Grandpa must be pretty old so maybe he remembers the 'blight' stories. That's how I learned about it as a kid.

    Here's their story of how they died and how people are trying to bring them back

    http://acf.org

    http://www.ppws.vt.edu/griffin/accf.html

    here's how to tell if yours is American or Chinese

    http://acf.org/find_a_tree.php

    http://acf.org/Tree_ID/chinamerover_02.php

    Please let us know!

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    I don't know what they are.... He just says they're chestnut. And I know they have those nuts that are covered in needles.



    In this pic you can see them in the back, but not on the other side of the fence. The one on the left is the one I'm cutting down. I know they were planted in the early 70's when the house was built. My grandparents planted all the trees (except the pines) back then. And since the magnolias are HUGE and the chestnuts are still kinda small, I figure they are not american chestnut. Must be something else.



    In this pic, the tree on the far right is the same chestnut tree on the right in the other pic. You can see how big the magnolia is in front of the house on the left of the pic.

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