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    Weed tree? keep or cut?

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    I am clearing some paths to my rasberry patches on my 7 acres, and I keep discovering new trees I didnt know I had. I also find myself pulling grape vines out of them and finding how beautiful some of them are. I know ZERO about trees, but I'd love to learn more! The more I find, the more interested I become. The set of pics is different angles of the tree, one shows branch cut, one shows branch upside down with the nut or fruit , and a close up of it still on the tree itself. It has a HUGE trunk girth Click image for larger version. 

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    some of the leaves and fruit resemble black gum/tupelo, aka nyssa sylvatica. the base of the trunk will be very large if growing in a wet location. hope someone else can chime in and help. might help if you posted more and larger pics.
    peace to all

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    ok, well its on the side of my driveway up against a wire fence bordering a horse farm. Im going to take more pics because I understand now what you mean, more angles and a shot of the trunk would help I am sure, especially if I can get the structure of the tree. Thanks so much for the advice and input. I have a new found love for trees all of a sudden! Im hooked on learning first about all that I have on my 8 acres total, then I will be interested in collecting more! I really hate to cut any living tree/thing down, but I have too to thin out and let the nicer trees flourish. I will have some pics tomorrow since I get off when its still light out!

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    https://picasaweb.google.com/1037960...eat=directlink

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    I am new to this site....would it be better and easier for you guys to view the pics from my picasa web album? Is this allowed?
    It is organized on that site and all pics in one album with captions. Feedback would be great.
    Reference 7 newest pics: It is hard to view the structure of this tree becuase I havent cleaned out the vines completely. There are some more close ups of the leaves and branch arrangement, Also, the best view i could get of the wide trunk is becuase I cant access close enough to it yet...still cleaning junk out there.
    Last edited by christine66376; 06-24-2012 at 07:34 AM. Reason: Just figured out how to post this to picasa

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    I am new to this site....would it be better and easier for you guys to view the pics from my picasa web album? Is this allowed?
    It is organized on that site and all pics in one album with captions. Feedback would be great.
    Reference 7 newest pics: It is hard to view the structure of this tree becuase I havent cleaned out the vines completely. There are some more close ups of the leaves and branch arrangement, Also, the best view i could get of the wide trunk is becuase I cant access close enough to it yet...still cleaning junk out there.

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    I think you can post the link to your web album. Some of the pictures are hard to make out, as the sun is in the background. You might try adding some photos and shoot with the sun behind you. What part of the country are you in? This might help in diagnosing what you have by looking at native trees and invasive species in your area.

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    Using a photo sharing service (like Picasa) is not only allowed, but it's highly encouraged.
    Here are some other things you can do to help get it ID'd.

    http://arbordayforum.com/showthread....ree-identified

    It would also be helpful to know your location (at least the state and country) .
    Last edited by Quirky Quercus; 06-22-2012 at 09:26 AM.

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    See if this direct link to newer photos helps confirm black gum

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trees are neat! View Post
    I think you can post the link to your web album. Some of the pictures are hard to make out, as the sun is in the background. You might try adding some photos and shoot with the sun behind you. What part of the country are you in? This might help in diagnosing what you have by looking at native trees and invasive species in your area.

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    Still unable to determine exactly what it is because the photos aren't too good (no offense) and we're seeing pictures of different species. The point of showing us the trunk is to see the bark color and pattern. Unfortunately none of the pics show that. The pics of the fruit are too far away to see those. The branch looks like a piece of driftwood that washed ashore in the times of Christopher Columbus. I don't mean to pick on you.

    The biggest problem however is there appears to be a couple pics showing what looks like it could be Nyssa sylvatica (can't say definitively) and there are a number of other leaf pictures showing something that clearly is not. (simple, opposite, serrated leaves).

    Are you able to verify where the other foliage originated?

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    I can't give you a positive I.D. either but if the tree seems healthy I sure would think twice about cutting it down. While it's nice to have the raspberry patch nearby if the tree is shading the house or is in a position to do so in the future it takes alot of the heat load off the Air Conditioner and help your electric bill.
    Thalsa Caruso wrote many good gardening books and lived in many homes, She advised to spend 4 seasons in a home before planting any long term trees or removing them. One home was an old drafty farmhouse situated on the Atlantic coast, She moved in around Halloween and the spooky Beech casted shadows that were frightening at first. When winter came the Beech lost a limb which went into the living room window during a Nor'Easter.
    When spring came the Beech was pardoned, Waking up to Song Birds swayed Caruso. When summer came the shade and cooling effect cemented her new thinking that indeed whom ever planted that tree was indeed more sensible than she thought 6 months earlier.

    Black Tupelo is an Indian[Creek] name, It's a native tree to Virginia if that makes a difference to you. That means it's important to squirrels, birds, and butterflies.
    The squirrels need the mast[just a tree word that means fruit/nut] and the swallowtail butterfly lays it's eggs on Sour gum too. When the eggs hatch and grow into Catipillers they'll eat some leaves and then make a chrysallis [Moths make caccoons and butterflies make chrysallis[s]]
    Hopefully you'll have an Ecology lesson in your own backyard, If the chrysallis turns into a butterfly.

    It's possible that your sour gum is a male tree and if there's no other female trees around you won't get much mast. Native Tree Nurserys reccomend planting 3 sour gums for best mast production. I'm pretty sure you'll probably find another spot for that garden once you see the blood red fall coloring of the sour gum.


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