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nightrust
07-25-2006, 06:52 PM
Hmmm... amazing what pops up if you don't walk around the yard for a few days.

You guys wanted an easy one.

HINT: I think this might be Quirky's favorite invasive.

treeman
07-25-2006, 07:14 PM
Royal Paulownia aka Princess tree or empress tree (Paulownia tomentosa)

Quirky Quercus
07-25-2006, 08:59 PM
Here's where I put paulownias...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/treehugr/invasives_010910005.jpg
:lol:

nightrust
07-25-2006, 09:08 PM
Do I see some Mimosas in there too, Quirky?

Quirky Quercus
07-26-2006, 09:11 AM
Yes you certainly do. And some tree of heaven and maybe some privet.

Aesculus
07-26-2006, 12:59 PM
I may be crazy, but the leaves pictured do not look like Paulownia to me. Of course, I could be wrong, I was wrong once! If this "tree" starts blooming pretty soon then hopefully nightrust will let us know. I will try to post a picture of the herbaceous weed that I think it might be, velvetleaf (Abutilon theophrasti Medik.)

treeman
07-26-2006, 05:39 PM
Well, one thing I noticed is that nightrust's plant or tree seems to have 7 main veins and the velvetleaf has 9 main veins:

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5298/tree2qk6.jpg

saccharum
07-26-2006, 08:10 PM
I think that probably really is Paulownia, but velvetleaf was a reasonable thing to suggest. I remember that weed from Michigan (very common on agricultural land), but haven't noticed it in Florida.

Either way, it could be pulled up with a feeling of satisfaction.

BTW Aesculus, no need to feel bad about being wrong now and then. I've made some major goofs, both here and on other forums.

treeman
07-26-2006, 08:19 PM
I thought that was a good guess. I've never even heard of a velvetleaf before. They look so much alike that I did a little searching on it.

Quirky Quercus
07-26-2006, 08:37 PM
Kinda s'prised that a paulownia sprouting in eastern OH. Is there a parent tree somewhere around?
Also now that it was brought up I don't remember seeing serrated edges to paulownia leaves. But that could just be wrinkles showing up funny on the screen.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/treehugr/pnia_030724005_RTG.jpg
I have the best paulownia pics.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/treehugr/pnia_060724005_RTG.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/treehugr/pnia_040724005_RTG.jpg

nightrust
07-26-2006, 09:56 PM
If this thing wasn't growing a couple inches from my foundation, you guys would have me tempted to let it grow to see what it is!

Looking at the velvetweed pictures, I'd say it's a toss-up. Cropped and attached another picture I took the same day, slightly different angle, if it helps any.

I can say this guy is very fuzzy (tomense?). There are very slight hints of early woodiness/toughness at the base.

I've never see the weed pictured, but there are a lot of wooded areas all around my neighborhood, so I wouldn't rule it out. I do see the occassional roadside Paulownia, but (fortunately) this seems to be the northern extreme for them, and I think winter dieback keeps them in check to some degree, especially atop the hill my town sits upon.

I expect to be banned any day now from the forum for posting frustratingly inconclusive pictures of trees, weeds, etc.

saccharum
07-26-2006, 10:15 PM
Just to add to the information mix, Paulownia is one of those trees that can have leaves that are either markedly serrated or pretty much entire.

treeman
07-27-2006, 12:06 AM
Here is one example of a toothed Royal Paulownia leaf:

http://www.duke.edu/~cwcook/trees/pato3035.jpg

Quirky Quercus
07-27-2006, 08:39 AM
I knew you all would come back and say
it's one of those trees that can have both.

But I have an idea.

If you cut the stem towards the bottom,
if it's paulownia it will be hollow like a pipe.
I don't know about the other plant but
this much I can promise you.
Then again this requires cutting it to find out.

Or if mym memory serves me the stems of the
leaves look like celery. That is they are U-shaped
and if you pull a leaf step upwards, it should easily
fall right off the main leader.

If you give it another month, you might start
to see a much more developed tree if paulownia
to which it does bear an uncanny resemblance.

nightrust
08-27-2006, 05:53 PM
Well folks, Aesculus wins this round of name-that-tree.

I never got around to pulling it. Then I noticed today it had sprouted flower buds that exactly match the velvetleaf weed picture Aescules posted.

Aesculus
08-28-2006, 07:27 AM
Thanks so much for confirming my identification!!!

saccharum
08-28-2006, 06:55 PM
Way to go Aesculus!